Who wants to be dictated to by the State on how you support your children — what, how and when?

Whilst many views float around arguing for and against child support, most decent fathers and parents would argue the issue is not whether or not they wish to support their children, but rather the often unfair conditions imposed upon them.

Simply, it's an attack on the nature of a father's freedom and how he best wishes to raise and support his children in the many different ways a responsible father can, which are often more effective and benefical to a child than any 'slap-bang' instrument of government and statism can ever be.

For a father going through separation/divorce, experiencing the loss of family and children, horrendous false allegations, litigation, uncertainty of where your children are and how they are doing, often causes ill health, work and life instability in so many ways. Also, the effects from not having a fully functioning and emotionally present Dad in a child's life can be equally, if not more devestating as their development can be hindered considerably.

Then if that isn't bad enough, along comes an assessment from the Child Support Agency (CSA) for an outlandish sum of money based on your capacity to work at the highest rate when you were fit and able and on fire, which is possibly a stark contrast to where your financial position is today, or will be in the future if you are unable to recover from the upheaval of a traumatic separation that's often compared to a fate worse than death.

From 2006 CSA powers in Australia have increased to not only garnish your wages, but directly withdraw from bank accounts any amount they deem appropriate, siezing assets of any sort to pay the often highly questionable and unjust debts. As Fathers are assaulted with such draconian measures, one can only feel a sense of dictatorship giving rise to a totalitarian society — not a free Australia — causing fathers to unite and fight for their rights and freedom.

As there are many issues surrounding child support and the effects upon fathers, children and families,

Share your opinion and experiences about the pros and cons of child support,
lifting the veil on a most horrid part of family breakup!

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By: Mike from WA, Aust on September 23, 2015 @ 11:04 am
John
My ex has voluntarily left her last 6 jobs and my payments escalate as a result. All my COA's were declined. I feel your frustration mate. My wife and I planned a baby and bought a house and now have been blindsided with a near double in CS payments due to ex's decision to leave her current job and start a business. We are now financially on the ropes. I sat down to object, but everytime I read the letters and lies,and knowing the bias of the case officers, my stress levels go through the roof. My wife and I decided to leave it and get on with ours lives. We are happy, and we know that she is still bitter and angry. A lot of people here will disagree with my thinking, but until legislation changes, those of us who are doing the right thing will always get shafted. The burning feeling in my guts when I think about this is subsiding as time goes on, and I want to be happy and content around my wife and kids, not bitter and grumpy.
I have 2 boys, one is 14 eldest son turns 18 next month, but payments only drop from 430 pfn to 360pfn...work that one out!
Just look after your health and your kids mate.
If you have the time and patience to object do so, but as Real CSA points out, you will be wasting your time.
My accountant advised me years ago to get my car on a novated lease. It lowered my tax but ex alerted CSA and they ended up taking it from my Gross pay anyway and it now doesnt count. You have to start your own business and fudge the figures to lower payments...but that wouldnt be responsible parenting would it...Its a pity CSA dont see it that way.
Good luck
 
By: Neil from NSW, Australia on September 23, 2015 @ 12:49 pm
Thanks, Real CS Info and Oscar for your comments. I think I forgot to mention in my earlier post that my ex-wife is an Australian citizen too and my child was born in Australia. They both have permanent visas for India that will allow them to stay over there indefinitely. She played a very smart move and only moved out of the country when she started getting child support payment. India is not a Hague signatory country so I can't seek help from DFAT to get my son back to Australia. And, because India is a reciprocating country, I'll have to keep paying child support. I've already contacted several departments (DFAT, ISS, Immigration etc) and lawyers in Australia and India, but couldn't get much help. Does anyone know if I can get the child support payment stopped until I get the child custody sorted? Or is there any other way out that I haven't been able to think about? Thanks in advance for any suggestion/comment.
 
By: Real CS info from qld, Australia on September 23, 2015 @ 11:33 am
India is a reciprocating jurisdiction. If the entitlement was not accurate CSA international would have ended it. The child must be a resident on the day the application was made. Or ordinarily a resident. So she can continue to collect t he child support. The haig convention is best approach as you may be entitled to apply for stay order while pursuing custody

 
By: Oscar from SA, Australia on September 23, 2015 @ 9:25 am
Neil - if your ex is living in a new country and is a citizen of that country, she will now be under their laws, and as such, the Australian laws may not apply (unless there is a cross-vesting agreement).

Seek some advice. I know seeing your child is most important, however, if you don't have to be paying maintenance then you should stop it as soon as you can. Let her pursue it from India.

I would be surprised if she is able to apply to the CSA for support when she is a citizen and resident of another country...
 
By: John from NSW, Australia on September 23, 2015 @ 10:42 am
Hello Bruce and Paul.
I appreciate both of your comments.
I have submitted a new letter today to the CSA rebutting the claims made by the other party.
I will let you know how it turns out. In the mean time I will watch this page with interest.
There are many things you can call the CSA - however, helpful and equality between the sexes when it come to the decisions they make is not one of
them.
Thanks again for your kind advise and take the time to respond.
Regards
John
 
By: paul from Q, australia on September 15, 2015 @ 9:18 pm
The option that may help is to have her living costs reassessed. She has to declare that she has only a share of living expenses as opposed to her having to maintain a house by herself.
Also, she made the choice to leave work to have a baby, apply on that basis, they can't refused your applications. Pester the shut out of them then go to the AAT if they continue to refuse your applications. Don't let these Nazis push you around , they really are disgusting in their actions and attitudes.
 
By: bruce from QLD, australia on September 22, 2015 @ 5:07 pm
Hi John, sorry to hear about your situation. Any accountant can help you with that. Really the only way to adjust your income is with a business. once upon a time a rental property was a good way but CSA took care of that with "add backs" is there any way you can be a consultant ? its worth asking the question. otherwise, do you have a new lady friend who owns a business, wants to go into business etc .....? just think of a way to get that income through a fee based service. heaps of people do it. good luck mate
 
By: John from NSW, Australia on September 22, 2015 @ 4:25 pm
Hello All,
It was a great relief to see there are other fathers in similar situations to mine and see that I am not the only one who is frustrated with the poor and one sided assessments of the CSA.

Just by way of background - My ex-wife has had a baby with her new partner and as a result she has taken time off work. I am now forced to increase the payments because a) she has a new baby and b) she wants to take time off work and therefore reducing her income.

Whilst I don't mind paying my share I don't see why my payment has to increase because of decisions made by her.

I work for a government body and as a consequence I cant do anything about my salary and I am forced to pay more than what I can currently afford. I have a bit in savings, however this will eventually expire.

I have submitted a request for review and hat seems to be falling on deaf ears.

My question, does anyone know of a good accountant to enable me to reduce my "adjusted taxable income" - as you know the income the CSA uses to make their assessments is based on a "adjusted taxable income" - not the figure the Tax Dept claims is your taxable income. Therefore I am after an accountant who can identify a way to reduce the adjusted taxable income amount. Again I am happy to pay what was considered the same amount before. But, for the life of me I cant see why I have to pay more as a result of her decision.

By finding legal ways to reduce your "adjusted taxable income" This then allows me to bring the amount I have to pay to a reasonable level as opposed to the over inflated level I have to pay now.

Thanks for your time and good luck to everyone.

John
 
By: Bruce from QLD, australia on September 21, 2015 @ 12:10 pm
first of all, did you consent to the departure? and what country was your child born in? if australia, go and get a lawyer ASAP. the family court is extremely unlikely to ever allow the mother to relocate with your child. i think there has only ever been 3 precedents set in that regard. assuming you didnt consent, do you understand the seriousness of what she's done?!
 
750. By: neil from NSW, Australia on September 19, 2015 @ 8:00 pm
My ex-wife has fled the country with our son (to India). There is a final order from Australian court in place that allows my son to stay with me for 3 nights a fortnight. I still have to pay full child support payment. I rang the CSA and then sent a few e-mails too, but they won't listen and told me they were not interested. My ex-wife has the child and as my child is not spending any time with me, I'll have to keep paying the full amount.
I have no problem paying the child support if he is in Australia and I am able to spend time with him.
Is there any way I can stop/reduce paying child support payment? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
By: John from NT, Australia on September 18, 2015 @ 12:25 pm
Real CSA

Thanks for the advice. Yes I sought legal advice the other day. Your first sentence sums it up.
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She can object the estimate if she has grounds for it being incorrect. So if you are genuinely on a pension for tax purposes than that is that.
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That as you say is that. I have reached preservation age and my income has gone from full time wage to a self funded pension. End of story.

Yes CofA reason 8 special circumstances (earning capacity) comes into play if I am still working - another issue altogether.

Thank you.



 
By: Real CS info from qld, Australia on September 17, 2015 @ 9:23 pm
Ky et al

Yes payments continue when you have no contact. There is no law allowing csa to do otherwise
 
By: Real CS info from qld, Australia on September 17, 2015 @ 9:05 pm
John,

She can object the estimate if she has grounds for it being incorrect. So if you are genuinely on a pension for tax purposes than that is that.

If she thinks you can draw more than that is CoA...an estimate and CoA are very different.


 
By: Paul from Qld, Aust on September 16, 2015 @ 7:39 pm
Kris, I get your frustration mate and I'm not proposing that we all go out and start litigating against solicitors.
All we can do is continue to get this out there in the public eye. Last week is proof that the media will blast a subject if it gets enough interest. There's a tipping point.
Get enough people talking and eventually we'll get something done. At the moment there simply isn't enough 'noise' because we feel guilty about whingeing about it. Blast every public media avenue that you have mate, every bit counts.
CSA have a lot to answer and I certainly won't rest until there is a very public enquiry. In the mean-time mate, there are lots of help-lines, you're not alone mate.
 
By: John from NT, Australia on September 15, 2015 @ 1:48 pm
To Real CS info etal.

Well today I just submitted a new "Estimate" for 15/16 based on my pension (self funded) for the remainder of the year. I could have done this 2 years ago but the timing didn't suit me.

I understand that the X can lodge a objection which is fine. Basically I am on a pension having reached preservation age.

So this is a major milestone and if she lodges an objection then I may have to call on your expertise Real CSA in the future via this site.

Keep up the good work RealCSA and thank you. After you respond, I will turn off notifications for the time being.

Regards

John (NT)
 
By: Kris from Nsw, Australia on September 15, 2015 @ 11:58 am
Hi to all paying parents
CSA/family law -multi billion dollar racket,destroying families and creating the new"stolen generation" and "domestic violence".
Csa/family law - both created by the legistlitive council/assembly .
Animals get treated better than humans in this system.
And as someone said here about reporting the solicitor virmin for misconduct..
Yeah I'll do that when I'm kicked out of a home lost my kids, forced to pay child support without orders in place yet, looking for a home , harassed by police even tough you never been in trubble before , fighting your own solicitor ,cause he is doing nothing and diverting things all the time, and let me add you might be a little depressed at this stage , you got no money , can't see your kids cause of a bogus avo and yeah I'll start proceedings against my solicitor ,no problem. It will never change , for those starting their child support I would strongly recommend leaving the country and start a new life somewhere, it's painfull I know. But unless you meet a very understanding woman , it will rip your new relationship and you apart . Hence why most 2nd marriages don't last as well . And remember it will NEVER change here. Not being negative , don't belive the trolls even here on this forum that it's changing. It is actually getting worse. Google 21 fathers and see for yourself . Over 2500++ people commit suicide each year. Advance australia fkn fair!
 
By: Paul from QLD, Australia on September 14, 2015 @ 12:36 pm
Kris, thanks for the input. I'm taking a special interest in the ratio of male suicide to violence against women. Depression and violent behaviour are essentially two different ways to deal with the same problem, they both indicate mental distress. Some men become violent, others withdraw. The end result of either can be murder, suicide and anything in between. If you have real data on that number I'd like to see it (paul.casley@bigpond.com).
I was in court today for a DV breach, I had the hide to speak to my wife in court and then give her lawyer a spray. Apparently lawyers should be beyond reproach. Why is it then that they are permitted to recommend DV proceedings to assist their parenting case?
Flow on the effects of CSA intervention when your children have been taken away, you no longer have a home, your employer is filtering money to CSA so that your ex-partner can live the life of Reilly and ironically give all of your hard earned to the spittle licking cockroach lawyers, WHO STARTED THE WHOLE PROCESS IN THE FIRST PLACE!
I recommend pointing your aggression toward lawyers first. They are the real problem. Let's have a 'Public Outing' of all inappropriate actions by lawyers.
I had a lawyer that withdrew as my representative so that she could put a contract on my house, that was being liquidated. Gee, conflict of interest or downright unethical...let me think?
 
By: Ky from Nsw, Australia on September 14, 2015 @ 7:37 pm
My ex has allianated my children from me and wants sole custody of them. If he succeeds in court will I still have to pay child support?
 
By: Oscar from SA, Australia on September 14, 2015 @ 2:14 pm
Suzy - sadly, and perhaps wrongly, the CSA and the Family Court are not linked.

Child support, via the CSA is for maintenance of the child
parenting orders, via the Family Court, for access

and no, the two are not linked. It would be great if the CSA had the power to cease payments based on one partner violating a parenting order or by taking it upon themselves to restrict access (where no parenting orders exist). In this way the system is too unfair and one sided
 
740. By: suzy from QLD, Australia on September 14, 2015 @ 2:34 pm
Does anyone know if a mother totally withholds a child from access with her father, do you still pay csa or can you have the payments stopped because of this? My husbands x has been withholding since May 2014 and we have paid her $1k a month still.
 
By: Oscar from SA, Australia on September 14, 2015 @ 12:04 pm
Paul - if what you say about your lawyer is 100% correct (resigning so could apply for your house)then you need to contact the equivalent of the QLD Legal Practice Board.

Based on what you say, it is unethical behaviour, and Lawyer will get looked at and could sanctioned.
 
By: Paul from QLD, Australia on September 14, 2015 @ 12:36 pm
Kris, thanks for the input. I'm taking a special interest in the ratio of male suicide to violence against women. Depression and violent behaviour are essentially two different ways to deal with the same problem, they both indicate mental distress. Some men become violent, others withdraw. The end result of either can be murder, suicide and anything in between. If you have real data on that number I'd like to see it (paul.casley@bigpond.com).
I was in court today for a DV breach, I had the hide to speak to my wife in court and then give her lawyer a spray. Apparently lawyers should be beyond reproach. Why is it then that they are permitted to recommend DV proceedings to assist their parenting case?
Flow on the effects of CSA intervention when your children have been taken away, you no longer have a home, your employer is filtering money to CSA so that your ex-partner can live the life of Reilly and ironically give all of your hard earned to the spittle licking cockroach lawyers, WHO STARTED THE WHOLE PROCESS IN THE FIRST PLACE!
I recommend pointing your aggression toward lawyers first. They are the real problem. Let's have a 'Public Outing' of all inappropriate actions by lawyers.
I had a lawyer that withdrew as my representative so that she could put a contract on my house, that was being liquidated. Gee, conflict of interest or downright unethical...let me think?
 
By: Kris from nsw, Australia on September 14, 2015 @ 11:16 am
Hi to all paying parents.
CSA / Family Law - multi billion dollar racket destroying families and creating the new" stolen generation "and creating" domestic violence".
Just the other day I heard on the radio that university studies have shown that homosexuals due to discrimination of "gay marriage" and homophobia are falling into depression. Well well well .Welcome to the real world our homosexual brothers and sisters. Because of our wonderful political scum we have 21 fathers commit suicide each week and 3 women are murdered each week. So please enjoy your marriage equality. Where as the rest of us heterosexuals just stay calm :) because it will never change .And as someone has here said it's changing for the fathers, pls get a reality check , causer judging by the comments people post here, the number of people getting screwed vs the winner is irrelevant. ..5 more years and counting. ..
 
By: suzy from QLD, Australia on September 13, 2015 @ 5:24 pm
Thanks everyone, you have been a great help, this past week has seen my husband pushed over the edge by them almost to suicide. We have sent a formal letter of complaint to CSA requesting all the information regarding the DPO and transcripts of all conversations within the past year. We have also made a formal complaint to the commonwealth ombudsman.
 
By: paul from Q, australia on September 13, 2015 @ 5:14 pm
Suzy, you have every right to demand that they confirm everything they say in a call through the CSA online portal or by mail. Let me say again...do not engage these people over the phone. They will screw your words around to suit themselves and force you to go to the tribunal.
If they have said the DPO has been lifted, request confirmation in writing. Make them work for their jobs. From what I've seen, most of us just give up. DO NOT GIVE UP. that's what they want you to do.
 
By: suzy from QLD, Australia on September 13, 2015 @ 3:42 pm
Ok so how do we find out if they have removed it, if in fact they placed one on in the first place and not just lied about it. They have said over the phone it has been removed. Don't want to show up at airport and have this be an issue as our flight is at 10am and not enough business hours to sort out.
 
By: paul from q, australia on September 13, 2015 @ 3:31 pm
My experience is that you will be notified in writing and the it will be on your CSA online.
you have options, you can offer a bond and they cannot refuse. The bond must be returned when you return to the country. Don't pay them to clear the DPO, they are liars and they will leave the DPO in place. I've neverexperienced such a lying pack of weasels in my life.
 
By: suzy from QLD, Australia on September 13, 2015 @ 12:22 pm
Allan, I agree we have not seen anything in writing. And they fail on -The Registrar can make a DPO where all of four specified conditions are satisfied (section 72D). We have been trying to sort this for months and have made small payments to keep them happy.It has been a very good extortion plan and it worked.
 
By: Allan from QLD, Australia on September 13, 2015 @ 12:07 pm
Suzy

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/csaca1988427/s72d.html

Section 72D have a read. you need to see it in writing if the DPO exists.
 
730. By: Real CS info from qld, Australia on September 13, 2015 @ 10:16 am
Suzy,

A departure prohibition can be applied to non aussie passports. CSA woulf not say there is one if there is not. It is not a passport stop...it is an order under law that means customs could not let you board a plane and for those who do get to Airport the Federal police escort you back from the place..essentially tell you sorry you cannot fly.

CSA chooses the conditions under which they remove it. If they believe you can pay lump sum that's what will be asked for.

Based on your full payment seems like best option as you don't want your holiday wrecked.
 
By: suzy from QLD, Australia on September 13, 2015 @ 9:30 am
Thanks Bruce. We tried when they called to make a payment arrangement and they refused.So we went ahead and paid all of it, we thought we had no choice, in such a short time frame. They only stopped calling to harass my husband because he said to them that he was pushed to suicide which is correct.
 
By: Bruce from QLD, Australia on September 13, 2015 @ 9:20 am
Suzy thats bloody terrible. It sounds like you've been scammed. They cannot stop your husband from departing on a NZ passport. Shocking.

From what i inderstand,if there is a DPO in place it simply means you will need to enter into a payment arrangement before being allowed to depart the country. So just get to the airport early.
 
By: suzy from QLD, Australia on September 13, 2015 @ 7:27 am
Regarding a DPO. My husband was informed by his x that CSa were going to stop his passport when we are leaving on a family holiday in a week.He spoke to CSA, told him, his case had not been referred to this dept. The next day CSA ring and say unless he pays his debt to under $2k they will stop his passport. We paid this even though we are disputing and have been for months with them. The next day CSA call and say they have stopped the passport until the whole amount is paid. He has not received any docs about any of this just phone calls. We have paid it all because what we lose if we cancel our trip is far much more. He holds a NZ passport, would they be able to stop this? What I'm wondering is they seem to have so much power, could they have been lying the whole time just to get us to pay? How would we know and could we do anything since it's not a correct assessment and we will never get our money back from x
 
By: Real CS info from qld, Australia on September 11, 2015 @ 3:32 pm
Robin,

This means you got the s107. I hope you applied for s143 at same time so she has to pay you back.

What you sre talking about here is that the judge found she was not entitled to apply as the court found presumtion of parentage was not me making case invalid from start date.

Hope you also got the second decision.
 
By: robin from nsw, australia on September 11, 2015 @ 3:20 pm
real csa
The court ruled in my partners case and stated that the test is to be done on a set date she never turned up ( she was told what wold happen if sge didnt turn up )so the court has ruled no more csa payments and his child support case is to be stoped. His x has not turned up to 2 court app either
 
By: Real CS info from qld, Australia on September 11, 2015 @ 11:26 am
Robin,

When you lodge the s107 which associated to dna the law says child support payment stop but it is still assessed. CSA cannot collect during this time. If he is dad but he will be required to pay contact or not so just be aware.

Mal yes CSA will tell you if they DPO. The parameters are CSA believe this is the best enforcement approach in your case. Not every person gets DPO.




 
By: robin from nsw, australia on September 11, 2015 @ 10:56 am
My partner had a win against csa and his x
he was denied all visits to his kid since the boy was 2yrs old
Went throu everything to see him the x left the state and moved around when ever my partner found where they were. Long story cut short the boy is now 13 and my partner has taken her to court and won no csa payments at all till a dna test is done. CSA can not give anyone visits to their kids only the courts can do that. All csa do is get the money from the paying parent.A court order can have csa stoped if the mother does not give access to the father. So best anyone can do is start court and get to see your kids that way. family law has changed to the fathers side and does state that having the support of both parents ( not just 1 ) is better on the kid
 
By: mal from QLD, Australia on September 11, 2015 @ 10:01 am
Hi guys, can anyone enlighten me on the DPO.

1. will i be advised if this is in place or will it just be a 'surprise' at the airport?

2. Can DPO done for any reason or what are the parameters? i have a very spiteful ex and i recently told my son i was going to China for work. I dont want to have to deal with this infront of my work colleagues........

3. I have a debt of about $860. it is an amount in dispute. she rorted me but thats another story. I know i'll have to pay it eventually I just dont want to until Christmas for the benefit of my son. apart from that i pay the prescribed amount every month.

any advice appreciated
 
By: Clint from QLD, Australia on September 10, 2015 @ 5:56 pm
Sorry guys, been under the pump with all this stuff myself. I'm happy to help if I can and would also appreciate any relevant advice that's out there?

I aslo think we need to rally the troops and waste the CSA's current evaluation process. That absolutely needs to happen.

For example: If you are being denied access by the custodial parent, and have attempted to engage this parent through the mediation process, and the other party is unwilling to co-operate. Then you should be able to request that your CS payments be suspended until visitation/custody or whatever can be determined and re-evaluated. Fairly.

There is shitloads more but anyway, I'm Clint, and these are my contact details; clinno81@gmail.com 0438-906-304.


 
720. By: Oscar from SA, Australia on September 10, 2015 @ 3:46 pm
Hi Clint or anyone else that has had experience with the DVO process in Queensland

i am interested in your DVO hearing. am flying to Qld next week to attend one myself. like to know about the procedure etc.

have you got an email or phone i can contact you on ??
 
By: Real CS info from qld, Australia on September 10, 2015 @ 4:50 pm
Want help understanding cs. Contact me on realcsinfo@gmail.com

Can give hints and tips on writing all applications and addressing other issues.
 
By: Oscar from SA, Australia on September 9, 2015 @ 1:17 pm
"A civil war is a war between ... groups within the same state or country ...The aim of one side may be to take control ...to achieve independence ... A civil war is a high-intensity conflict ... civil wars may result in ... 'casualties' and the consumption of significant resources ... as well as ...displacement ... Civil wars have ... resulted in economic collapse" - Wikipedia (with irrelevant words / phrases edited out.

Reads very similar to custody and child support battles being fought between estranged parents. Wake up Australia, and seriously consider reform to the Family Court, custody and child support regimes ...
 
By: Mik from WA, Aust on September 9, 2015 @ 11:11 am
Hi Paul from QLD, I would be interested in hearing your views and hopefully some advice that may help me draft an objection that will make someone sit up and notice. One of her reasons for leaving her work was flexibility to look after her new partners (who runs his own businees) 4 kids plus our 2. What she didnt tell CSA was that one is 22 and does not live with them and the rest are shared care. Plus our eldest is 18 in a month and has his own car. If you can post your email or even details on this forum that could help others would be appreciated.
 
By: lyndon from qld, aus on September 8, 2015 @ 7:59 pm
Hey Rob my ex worked as an subcontractor also so i did the dodgy and hired them to do a job and she had a actuly showed up and give me a invoice it was funny . The ato( again faurd line) where helpful in the way she was pocketing the money and not paying tax, they contacted her boss , thats when it all came out . She had to come clean . She withheld care for sometime but wasnt long
 
By: Rob from QLD, Australia on September 8, 2015 @ 7:32 pm
Thanks Lyndon. She sub contracts for a large cleaning company. I find so many things about it frustrating. I clearly need to put the correct wording together to get the CSA to actually get her assessed on a reasonable income. I can't see why any able bodied person cannot earn at least minimum wage working a 38hr week unless you choose not to for some reason. She doesn't even earn up to the self support amount on paper yet is on a three week overseas vacation with my kids. The number very clearly don't add up and the CSA delegate wouldn't even bother to call her.

When you say you found the ATO helpful, did they give you financial statements or something to that effect? I'm sure I can find her ABN if I tried but she is declaring an income. She is either not working much or fudging the figures. Once again the CSA delegate wouldn't even look into it, stating she has been a low income earner for years so what has changed, my reply was the kids are now in school so she can go back to work!

I have 50/50 care and I do earn more than her and she most likely can't earn as much as me. I just want her to pull her weight and work full-time like I have to or at least be assessed as working full-time and her new man can support her choice of lifestyle instead of me. I know she would still get some child support of me but my money is for my kids not her lifestyle. But CSA seem to think she is entitled to not work and still get money. What a joke.

Im curious as to the comment of "Just dont do anything dodgey it will come back to haunt you" Are you referring to gaining information by deception or something along those lines? Clearly dealing with CSA defies logic and reason, so if there is an example of something some of us may feel is reasonable but in there eyes could be deemed "dodgy"I'd appreciate the insight.
 
By: lyndon from qld, aus on September 8, 2015 @ 6:52 pm
Rob I bet she has a Facebook page for the business , Easy to find . Just dont do anything dodgey it will come back to haunt you
 
By: lyndon from qld, aus on September 8, 2015 @ 6:24 pm
Rob does she have a ABN you can look this up online . Try local business directory hopefully she has linked her name to one of them . I found the ATO helpful to. She is proberly claiming FTB get onto centrelink see if they could help(fraud line).Do your own research CSA will not help you . Again make complaint after complaint to CSA until you are heard . when you call CSA do not talk there front line staff Ask for complaints straight away and dont let them side track you . Just stay on hold until they put you through and also ask for a superviser or mananger.
 
By: Rob from QLD, Australia on September 8, 2015 @ 5:11 am
Been reading through a few of these sites. Has anyone ever been successful in getting a reason 8 through CSA? My Ex runs her own business and doesn't even earn minimum wage! It is like she does it to avoid working full-time which I think is ridiculous. CSA in their wisdom refuse the reason 8 application and told me I was wasting their time as they can't force her to work. I just want my Ex to pull her weight financially and talking to the decision makers at CSA is like smacking your head into a brick wall, over and over. Anyone who has had success please let me know, Im seeing a lawyer in a couple of weeks to see if they can explain how to get around these moronic decision makers.
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By: lyndon from qld, aus on September 8, 2015 @ 5:23 pm
Dont forget when applying to the AAT watch time frames and also claim financial hardship you will get at a minimal cost
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710. By: Lyndon from qld, aus on September 8, 2015 @ 5:02 pm
Mike I cant agree more ! . I have found but difficult some times you need to put emotions aside and look at it in a way that its your hard earned money they are your kids not the Goverments and you have to take it upon yourself to right the the wrongs because they CSA dont care( unless you are the receiving parent) . I have written letters to the PM and had some luck , having my own case manager ( which I have to say is fantastic ) appointed to me. I am no lawyer but I have to say talk to the right people gain knowledge and go to war .